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Brooks B17 Review: Comfort, Break-In and Rain Care

Brooks B17 review: what the leather saddle is really like to live with, from break-in and comfort to rain care, sizing and which model to buy.

Brooks B17: what you're actually buying

The Brooks B17 is a leather hammock saddle: one piece of vegetable-tanned hide, stretched over a steel frame, riveted at the rear and fitted with a tension bolt at the nose. There is no foam, no gel and no plastic shell. The leather is the suspension, which is why a new one feels firm and slightly slick and why an old one feels like nothing at all.

It has been in Brooks' catalogue for well over a century and is still the default choice for touring, audax and long-distance commuting. It is also a deliberately old-fashioned product: heavy next to a moulded saddle, fussy in the wet, and slow to feel comfortable. What you get in return is a shape that, once it has settled, suits a great many riders over very long days — and a lifespan measured in decades rather than seasons.

It suits riders who pootle, commute, tour and ride audax. It is a poor match for anyone who wants instant comfort, counts grams, or leaves their bike out in the rain.

How the B17 is put together

Underneath the hide sits a simple steel frame with two rails. The leather is pulled over the rear cantle and held by copper rivets, and a bolt at the nose lets you take up slack as the material settles. Because the whole thing is mechanical, it can be adjusted and repaired in a way that a moulded saddle cannot — but it also means there is nothing between you and the leather except the leather.

Brooks still makes its saddles in its own works in England, and the finish reflects that: thick hide, tidy rivets, a stamped plate at the back. It looks like a piece of equipment rather than a component.

Top
Single piece of vegetable-tanned leather
Frame and rails
Steel; a titanium-rail version is offered at a higher price
Rivets
Copper, set at the rear of the saddle
Tensioning
Nose bolt; take up slack only when the leather starts to feel soft under you
Weight
Roughly half a kilogram in the steel version
Weatherproofing
None — a fitted cover is a separate purchase
Care
Brooks Proofide, applied sparingly a couple of times a year
Made in
England

Comfort and the break-in period

Nobody buys a B17 for how it feels on the first ride. Out of the box the leather is stiff and slick, and the saddle feels harder than almost anything else you could fit. The first few hundred miles are the price of admission.

Break-in is the whole point. The hide softens where you sit and gradually takes the shape of your sit bones, with two shallow depressions appearing towards the rear. How long that takes varies enormously from rider to rider — some say a few hundred miles, others a full season. Warm weather, a little Proofide and plenty of hours in the saddle speed it up; cold, wet commuting slows it down.

Once it has happened, the hammock spreads load across a wider area than a padded saddle does, which is why long-term owners talk about simply forgetting the saddle is there. Two caveats worth knowing:

  • A leather saddle gives you nothing for free. Riders who never settle into a B17 have usually bought the wrong shape rather than the wrong material.
  • The surface is slippery when new, particularly in the wet, so expect to shuffle about until it scuffs up a little.

How the B17 scores

The B17 is a specialist, and the scores below show it: it wins where leather wins and loses where leather is a liability. Read them as a picture of a season of ownership rather than a fortnight.

Comfort after break-in
5.0/5

The reason riders put up with everything else: a leather hammock that spreads pressure and disappears under you over long distances.

Comfort out of the box
2.0/5

Firm, slick and unforgiving for the first few hundred miles. Expect some discomfort before it settles down.

Wet-weather resilience
2.0/5

Not waterproof. Ridden wet without a cover, the leather takes on water and can stretch out of shape.

Longevity and repairability
5.0/5

Rails, rivets and leather can all be nursed along, and slack can be taken up at the nose. Decades of service is realistic.

Weight
2.5/5

Around half a kilogram in steel. The titanium version saves weight but is never a light saddle.

Ease of living with
3.0/5

Setup is straightforward, but a cover, Proofide and shelter from the rain are all part of ownership.

Strengths and weaknesses

What the B17 does well

  • Comfort on long rides is outstanding once the leather has taken your shape
  • Genuinely adjustable and repairable: slack can be taken up, and the frame can be serviced
  • Leather and steel shrug off scuffs from mudguards, racks and bike racks
  • A broad contact area spreads load well in upright and endurance positions
  • Timeless looks that suit steel tourers, audax bikes and traditional town bikes

Where it falls short

  • Break-in takes hundreds of miles, and some riders never get comfortable
  • Heavy compared with a moulded saddle — a real penalty on a light build
  • Leather dislikes rain; without a cover and mudguards it stretches and sags
  • Needs periodic Proofide and a dry place to live between rides
  • Hard and slippery when new, especially in wet weather

Rain, mud and British weather

This is where leather saddles earn their reputation for being high-maintenance. The B17 has no waterproof membrane and no synthetic cover: the hide will absorb water, and a saddle that stays soaked will stretch, sag and eventually dry out of shape.

The practical answer is not a wonder product but two pieces of kit. Decent mudguards keep the worst of the road spray off the underside, and a fitted saddle cover deals with the rest — on the bike at the cafe stop, and in the bag for the ride home. A thin smear of Proofide slows absorption a little, but it does not make the saddle waterproof.

If the saddle does get drenched, let it dry slowly at room temperature. Heat is the enemy: a radiator, a hot air vent or a hairdryer will dry the leather too fast and leave it cracked and hard.

Which B17 model suits your riding

The B17 name covers several shapes built on the same leather-and-steel idea, and picking the right one matters far more than the colour or the rail material. The Standard is the classic broad hammock and suits upright positions. The Narrow is trimmed at the sides for riders whose thighs rub or who ride lower and longer. The S is the shorter version, sized for smaller riders, and the Imperial adds a central cut-out for anyone troubled by soft-tissue pressure.

If you can only try one, try the Standard — it is the shape most riders picture when they say Brooks.

A word on your position: the more weight you carry on your hands, the less the broad rear of a Standard helps and the more likely you are to want the Narrow.

The B17 family: same leather, four different shapes
ModelShapeBest suited to
B17 StandardThe classic broad hammock with a wide rearUpright tourers, commuters and riders who want maximum support
B17 NarrowTrimmed at the sides with a slimmer noseSportier positions and riders whose thighs rub on a wider saddle
B17 SShorter overall and slightly wider, sized for smaller ridersWomen and anyone with a shorter reach to the bars
B17 ImperialStandard profile with a central cut-outRiders who get numbness or pressure in the soft tissue

Setting up and caring for a B17

  1. 1. Set the height before anything else

    Fit the saddle at your usual height and start with it level, or with the nose a degree or two up. A nose-down tilt slides you forward and puts weight on your hands.

  2. 2. Dial in the fore and aft position

    Move the saddle on its rails until your knee sits over the pedal axle with the cranks level. The B17 has a broad rear, so a centimetre or so forward of where you first put it often feels better.

  3. 3. Feed the leather, sparingly

    Warm a little Proofide into the top surface and leave it to soak in. Treat the underside lightly. Never soak the leather — an over-soft saddle sags and loses its shape.

  4. 4. Ride it, and keep riding it

    Break-in comes from hours in the saddle, not from treatments. Expect several hundred miles before the leather takes your shape; warm weather helps.

  5. 5. Take up tension only when needed

    If the leather starts to feel slack beneath you, turn the nose bolt a quarter turn at a time. Once a lot of tension is wound in, it is difficult to undo.

  6. 6. Cover it when it rains

    A fitted cover and decent mudguards do more for a B17's lifespan than any treatment. Dry a wet saddle slowly, well away from radiators.

Who should buy it — and who should not

The B17 makes most sense on a bike that is ridden for distance rather than for the clock: a steel tourer, an audax machine, a gravel bike doing long days out, or a commuter with mudguards and a rack. It also suits riders who like looking after their kit and who would rather buy once than replace a saddle every couple of years.

It is a poorer fit for a few clear groups. If you race or ride a long, low position, the broad rear of the Standard will get in your way — try the Narrow first, or a different saddle entirely. If your bike is left outside at a station all day, the leather will suffer. If you want to buy online, fit it and forget it, the break-in period will frustrate you.

One more consideration: a leather saddle rewards a rider who knows roughly where their sit bones land and what shape they get on with. If you have never been comfortable on a saddle, borrowing or test-riding a B17 before committing is far better than guessing.

Buying advice before you spend

Buy the shape, not the finish. Colour, rivet style and rail material change the look and the weight far more than they change the ride. Get the model right first, then decide whether the titanium-railed version is worth the extra outlay to you — it saves a useful chunk of weight but keeps exactly the same leather.

Secondhand B17s are widely available and can be excellent value, but leather keeps the shape it has been trained into. A lightly used saddle from a similar rider will settle quickly; a well-worn one may never feel right under you, however cheap it was.

Finally, budget for the extras. The saddle does not come with a cover, and a saddle cover plus a tub of Proofide is the difference between a B17 that lasts fifteen years and one that sags in three.

Frequently asked questions

How long does a Brooks B17 take to break in?

Expect several hundred miles of regular riding, usually spread over a few months, before the leather properly takes your shape. Warm weather, consistent hours in the saddle and a thin application of Proofide all speed it up.

Can you use a Brooks B17 on a road bike?

Yes, though the Standard's broad rear suits a more upright position. Riders on a long, low race position usually get on better with the B17 Narrow, which is trimmed at the sides and less likely to rub the thighs.

Do you need Proofide on a B17?

It helps. Proofide is Brooks' own leather food, and a thin coat a couple of times a year keeps the hide supple and slows water absorption. It is not a waterproofing treatment, and applying too much softens the saddle.

Is the Brooks B17 waterproof?

No. The leather will absorb water and can stretch if it stays wet. Mudguards and a fitted cover are the practical answer, and a drenched saddle should be dried slowly at room temperature.

Will a B17 fit my seatpost?

The B17 uses standard rails and fits ordinary seatposts with a two-bolt or micro-adjust clamp. It is a long saddle, so check clearance to the rear tyre on small frames and on bikes with rear suspension.

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